<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: N.H. Primary Results Open Thread&#8230;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/</link>
	<description>In2thefray:Because Someone has to be "Right"</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:20:57 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2978</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2978</guid>
		<description>This is also a church that honored Farakhan last month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is also a church that honored Farakhan last month.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: arclightzero</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2973</link>
		<dc:creator>arclightzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2973</guid>
		<description>Personally, I think it&#039;s a non issue. I&#039;m all for pride in one&#039;s culture - but I will not stand for that pride to be acceptable in one light but not another. The question as presented about attending a &quot;white&quot; church is an interesting one, because it exemplifies the annoying disparity in America right now. Any association with the words &quot;white&quot; and &quot;pride&quot; in it is bad. Real bad. Like, so bad you don&#039;t want to even joke about it. Yet, &quot;black&quot; and &quot;pride&quot; is acceptable and it is bad - real bad - to criticize it.

If Obama wants to have a little pride, that&#039;s great so long as he (or anybody he associates with) finds it unacceptable for whites to have pride as well. Since I doubt that is how it works, I default to not accepting Obama&#039;s past associations with black pride organizations - even if it was just a church,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think it&#8217;s a non issue. I&#8217;m all for pride in one&#8217;s culture &#8211; but I will not stand for that pride to be acceptable in one light but not another. The question as presented about attending a &#8220;white&#8221; church is an interesting one, because it exemplifies the annoying disparity in America right now. Any association with the words &#8220;white&#8221; and &#8220;pride&#8221; in it is bad. Real bad. Like, so bad you don&#8217;t want to even joke about it. Yet, &#8220;black&#8221; and &#8220;pride&#8221; is acceptable and it is bad &#8211; real bad &#8211; to criticize it.</p>
<p>If Obama wants to have a little pride, that&#8217;s great so long as he (or anybody he associates with) finds it unacceptable for whites to have pride as well. Since I doubt that is how it works, I default to not accepting Obama&#8217;s past associations with black pride organizations &#8211; even if it was just a church,</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2971</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2971</guid>
		<description>Would I? Hell no. Wow, that was an easy question to answer.


Seems no one else can answer such a simple question. Hmmmmmmm.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would I? Hell no. Wow, that was an easy question to answer.</p>
<p>Seems no one else can answer such a simple question. Hmmmmmmm&#8230;..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: in2thefray</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2970</link>
		<dc:creator>in2thefray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2970</guid>
		<description>@ Wickle...Thanks for the NH perspective. I don&#039;t look forward to the pollsters in Feb. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;The questions aren’t worth asking anymore.
&lt;/blockquote&gt; True especially given the nature of the desired answers.
@ Elric...&lt;blockquote&gt;Would you belong to a church that preached “white values” ,”White work ethic”, “White community” etc?&lt;/blockquote&gt; 1. Would you ? If you ask questions you in a forum you should pony up an answer. 2. There is something to be said of the black experience in America. On one hand it is sad that the idea of black nationalism,separatist, or pride are morphed into some synonymous jumble. I would rather a country without hyphens.Some communities such as the black community in light of history etc. have a stake in identifying problems and solutions themselves.Ergo the &quot;black&quot; version of the comments you made.
3. With my black and white referee shirt on...no pun intended. the  comment by wickle -&quot;Either show me some evidence of his separatist activities, or anything that he’s actually done wrong, or give it a rest.&quot; is a sound one relative to the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Wickle&#8230;Thanks for the NH perspective. I don&#8217;t look forward to the pollsters in Feb. </p>
<blockquote><p>The questions aren’t worth asking anymore.
</p></blockquote>
<p> True especially given the nature of the desired answers.<br />
@ Elric&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Would you belong to a church that preached “white values” ,”White work ethic”, “White community” etc?</p></blockquote>
<p> 1. Would you ? If you ask questions you in a forum you should pony up an answer. 2. There is something to be said of the black experience in America. On one hand it is sad that the idea of black nationalism,separatist, or pride are morphed into some synonymous jumble. I would rather a country without hyphens.Some communities such as the black community in light of history etc. have a stake in identifying problems and solutions themselves.Ergo the &#8220;black&#8221; version of the comments you made.<br />
3. With my black and white referee shirt on&#8230;no pun intended. the  comment by wickle -&#8221;Either show me some evidence of his separatist activities, or anything that he’s actually done wrong, or give it a rest.&#8221; is a sound one relative to the thread.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2969</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2969</guid>
		<description>You didnt answer the question, would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didnt answer the question, would you?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wickle</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2968</link>
		<dc:creator>wickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2968</guid>
		<description>Elric, the world doesn&#039;t need a white version of Al Sharpton. As I said ... he has a public record. Either show me some evidence of his separatist activities, or anything that he&#039;s actually done wrong, or give it a rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elric, the world doesn&#8217;t need a white version of Al Sharpton. As I said &#8230; he has a public record. Either show me some evidence of his separatist activities, or anything that he&#8217;s actually done wrong, or give it a rest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2967</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2967</guid>
		<description>&quot;As for Obama’s church — it might raise some questions, except that he has a public record!&quot;

  Would you belong to a church that preached &quot;white values&quot; ,&quot;White work ethic&quot;, &quot;White community&quot; etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Obama’s church — it might raise some questions, except that he has a public record!&#8221;</p>
<p>  Would you belong to a church that preached &#8220;white values&#8221; ,&#8221;White work ethic&#8221;, &#8220;White community&#8221; etc?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wickle</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2966</link>
		<dc:creator>wickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2966</guid>
		<description>Well, if I can bring the conversation back to NH, rather than racism ... NH is notoriously hard to poll, but the pollsters tend not to remember that.

40% of the state&#039;s voters are registered Undeclared. We (I&#039;m one of them) can vote in the GOP or Dem primary. When they say &quot;likely Democrat/Republican voters,&quot; it&#039;s all guesswork.

I had phone surveys asking me about the Democratic primary, even after answering how likely I was to vote in it with &quot;No chance in hell.&quot; I then tended to say that I&#039;d vote for Gravel or Kucinich, depending on what mood I was in.

I&#039;m afraid that NC is right about the independence of our votes, though ... we handed a bunch of establishment people the votes, which is sad. I blame the transplants from MA, but I don&#039;t think that they number enough to have done the whole thing.

As for Obama&#039;s church -- it might raise some questions, except that he has a public record! The same kind of thing goes for Romney about the race policies of the LDS -- he has a business and government record, and is clearly not a racist. Or Huckabee and Creation -- in ten years as governor, he never tried to stop schools from teaching about evolution. The questions aren&#039;t worth asking anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if I can bring the conversation back to NH, rather than racism &#8230; NH is notoriously hard to poll, but the pollsters tend not to remember that.</p>
<p>40% of the state&#8217;s voters are registered Undeclared. We (I&#8217;m one of them) can vote in the GOP or Dem primary. When they say &#8220;likely Democrat/Republican voters,&#8221; it&#8217;s all guesswork.</p>
<p>I had phone surveys asking me about the Democratic primary, even after answering how likely I was to vote in it with &#8220;No chance in hell.&#8221; I then tended to say that I&#8217;d vote for Gravel or Kucinich, depending on what mood I was in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that NC is right about the independence of our votes, though &#8230; we handed a bunch of establishment people the votes, which is sad. I blame the transplants from MA, but I don&#8217;t think that they number enough to have done the whole thing.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s church &#8212; it might raise some questions, except that he has a public record! The same kind of thing goes for Romney about the race policies of the LDS &#8212; he has a business and government record, and is clearly not a racist. Or Huckabee and Creation &#8212; in ten years as governor, he never tried to stop schools from teaching about evolution. The questions aren&#8217;t worth asking anymore.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2963</guid>
		<description>You take their charter and you replaced black with white, people would call it the Ayran nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You take their charter and you replaced black with white, people would call it the Ayran nation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Elric66</title>
		<link>http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2961</link>
		<dc:creator>Elric66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://in2thefray.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/nh-primary-results-open-thread/#comment-2961</guid>
		<description>Fray,

  So you are saying its ok to belong to a white supremasist church as long as you dont enact on those beliefs? Please.
&lt;strong&gt;Ed. says: I&#039;m saying there&#039;s a difference between Afro-centric sociology and black supremacist hate/racism. The UCC is more the former.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fray,</p>
<p>  So you are saying its ok to belong to a white supremasist church as long as you dont enact on those beliefs? Please.<br />
<strong>Ed. says: I&#8217;m saying there&#8217;s a difference between Afro-centric sociology and black supremacist hate/racism. The UCC is more the former.</strong></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
